Comment from Stumped1 on yesterday's post:
"I gotta say I like Zambrano, and so must have a lot of other teams. because what is lost in that trade is the fact that other teams were trying to get him, Tampa didn't come looking for Kazmir. the Mets just got the winning bid. You know he can pitch at the ml level already and has a ton more potential. Kazmir at this point just has potential."
Thanks for the comment, Stumped. I'd like to encourage more of them, and it's a subject I feel fairly strongly about, so I'm going to address it further, if I may:
Taking your second point first, you make the case that
Victor Zambrano has demonstrated the ability to pitch at the major league level, while Kazmir has only demonstrated the potential to do so.
Zambrano has indeed been pitching in the Show since 2001, and in almost 500 innings has posted a very respectable career ERA of 4.45. And, in what some might consider to be an even more impressive feat, his record stands at 37-27 despite toiling almost entirely for the D-Rays (pronounced "D minus rays").
On the other hand, he walked 102 batters in 142 innings last year. The strikeout rate was nice, but when you consider he turned 29 in August, it's very hard to believe that he'll ever get much better. I haven't studies his mechanics, and I wouldn't know what to look for even if I did, so I can't say that the "Peterson theory" is pure hogwash... What I can say is that he looks an awful lot like a 4th or 5th starter to me.
As for
Kazmir, "potential" might not go far enough to describe a 21 year-old who has struck out 324 batters in 261 professional innings. That's a K/9 of 11.17, with a K/BB of 2.84. After the trade, Tampa Bay had him make 4 more starts at AA, then called him up to the big club.
How did he do in the same uniform that Zambrano wore weeks earlier? He struck out 41 in 33.1 IP. His control was poor (nerves, maybe?), as was his ERA, but his K/BB was still better than Victor's.
On September 14, Kazmir twisted the knife in Mets fans everywhere by shutting out the World Champion Red Sox for 6 innings, allowing 3 hits, 3 walks, and ringing up 9.
You can say he's too small to pitch starter's innings, or that his mechanics put too much strain on his elbow. Maybe he'll wind up as a relief pitcher, and who would want a Billy Wagner-type around anyway, but at this point he looks like a young lefty with filthy stuff who's poised to have a dominant career as a starter.
What really makes me want to pull my hair out is that's exactly what he looked like last July, when Jim Duquette had his great epiphany ("Damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead... to a Wild Card berth... possibly"). Ask me at that point which of the two I'd rather have on the 25-man roster, and I would have said Zambrano without much hesitation, but at the cost of Kazmir?
Which brings me to your first point: there was a bidding war for Zambrano's services and the Mets had to win it. I understand the demand for reliable-but-unspectacular starting pitching at the trade deadline always exceeds the supply, and that it can be worth it for contending teams to overpay. But, I ask,
A) Would a rational observer conclude that the Mets were a real title contender last year? and
B) Is it possible, even for a contender, to simply give up too much in exchange for at best a moderate short-term upgrade?
As I said, I would rather have had Zambrano for the last few months of 2004. But entering the spring of 2005, I'd take Kazmir now. That's what I call a very short term upgrade. Kazmir's fanned over a quarter of the big league hitters he's faced, and, for the love of Dwight Gooden, he's only 21. I think only chronic injury can keep him from stardom, and I'm not about to wish it on him.
We got fleeced.